50% of the people who think they are survivalists are just an expression of the problem itself. We would have never found ourselves in the mess we have now unless they were just a reflection of the overall decline of our culture. It's important to know that such people cannot offer solutions because they are the problem.
Neurotic, hebephrenic, aphasic ... it's like a caricature of the fruit of this generation. Blame it on the water or the environment but these kids just ain't made of the same robust stuff as our parents. They're flimsy, self-indulgent, mentally frail, incapable of ever handling much reality at all. Everything has to be a kind of indirection or there is no talking about it at all. The most natural conclusions are to be discouraged, there is always a kind of overanalysis to avoid the Apocalypse becoming an actual inconvenience. It's hard for them imagine something in the world making them feel uncomfortable or inadequate. They are really a kind of critter that can't be dragged out of the womb mentally. They won't have it.
For this reason, I esteem most to be absolutely doomed. No wonder they are averse to any serious consideration of the topic. Maybe they sense this at some level.
I've said it before.
What's coming ain't no Foxfire, basket weaving tie-dye cotton hemp fabric singalong with Care Bears and Eco-conscious unicorns and smurfs.
It's bitter, acrid, scary, terrifying and primeval. It glows at night and makes strange noises in the darkness so obscure you never do figure out what they are. Most days you will be very lucky to know where your hip pockets are and have a plan to see the following morning. The only real security in that world will come from a Vault of some form or another. You will discover then what I know now - during really hard times, it's impossible to sit down and think your way through things before you first have the option of locking a good strong door behind you. Then you can pull up with a cup of tea and work things out so it doesn't feel like madness. Anything else, you'll always be running and quaking with fear until you die, which won't take long in the world that is coming.